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Interview: Sir Ranulph Fiennes comes to Stockton
Sir Ranulph Fiennes-Living Dangerously
Tues 13 Dec 2022
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You’re heading out on tour, what will you be talking about?
I’ll be talking about my life: my childhood and schooling, and training with the SAS (and being chucked out of the SAS!) I’ll be talking about my very first posting with the British Army, and being the youngest captain in the British Army – even though I didn’t deserve it(!) – and how that inspired my love of exploring. I’ll also touch upon some of my favourite expeditions, one of which was finding an Arab city with my first wife Ginny that we spent 26 years looking for, and how, in the first year after we got married, we did our first journey together: a 2000 mile long boat trip down one of the toughest rivers in the world, in a rubber dinghy. There’s so much to talk about that I can only briefly touch on being the oldest Brit up Everest and the oldest pensioner in Great Britain to go up the north face of the Eiger! I’ve tried to get a good mix of polar exploring, and my other adventures.
As a man that seems to be fearless, can you share whether there is anything that you
I don’t really worry about expeditions. I only really worry about family finances. All those
horses that Ginny loved! When we moved to Exmoor, we had lots of Aberdeen Angus cows
and sheep, and that was quite profitable. But the horses…!
You have achieved a great deal, are there any expeditions/challenges you would still
like to conquer? Was there one that got away?
There is one thing that I wish I had tried doing earlier. At the moment, I still hold the World
Record of being the only person to have crossed the whole of that Antarctica ice cap, the
whole of the northern ice cap and to climb the highest mountain. It's called the Global ReachChallenge and I'm the only person to ever have done it. There are two other people who have nearly done it, a Norwegian and a Belgian, both of whom I am friends with now. The record I would like to have broken is to cross all the ice caps and climb all seven of the highest mountains. Everest is the most difficult, I've done that. And if when I'd done Everest I had done the minor ones, that would have been no problem. It was 2009 and I was in my 60s and quite fit, but when you’re a bit older, things start to go wrong. Your circulation heads towards your core so if you have ever gotten frost bite before, you are even more likely to get it again.
The mountains that you can actually climb when you are in your 70s have to be much lower
than the ones you could have climbed before. There are only 3 of them out of 7 I haven't
done, so it's very annoying. I'm sure someone else will complete it soon.
So you are quite competitive?
I am, and it’s not a good trait. When I was first asked to climb Everest, I said no because of
my extreme vertigo. Then 6 months later my wife died and I just wanted to do something,
anything to distract me. So I did months and months of training and then I got a heart attack
when I was 300 meters from the top and my friend got hypoxia on the way down. I told the
doctor when I got down to base camp that I was never trying it again but he told me that if
you go up the other side, from Nepal, it’s dead easy! Four years after that, 2008, I did that
and nearly got to the top, didn't get a heart attack, but the body of my Sherpa’s father
appeared in the snow, as he had previously died trying to climb Everest. There hadn't been
that much snow that year so the bodies just reappear. It was awful. The next year, 2009, by
which time I was an OAP, I had worked out why I had failed twice: I was being too
competitive. The next time I tried, I went with a Sherpa who was so fit, there was no point in
trying to be competitive. I went very slowly that time.
What do you do to relax?
To relax, I sleep! And listen to the music of Enya. In between my lectures I run around the
Serpentine a couple of times. I don’t call it jogging though – it’s more ‘shuffling’.
In many people’s minds you are already superhuman - if you could choose a super power what would it be?
My super power would be to not have extreme vertigo! When I was in Dubai recently, they
wanted me to go on the World’s Highest Zip Wire and break the record of going 160 mph,
and I said yes(!) because I didn’t want to be unpopular with the client. I sort of opened my
eyes as we left the platform, but I then kept them shut for the rest of the ride! When I did the
north face of the Eiger, I was being led by this guy who has done Everest 11 times. He is
very clever at teaching his climbers how not to get vertigo temporarily. It’s pretty simple –
don’t allow yourself to think below your feet at all. It seems obvious but don’t look down! Last August at home, the gutters got full of leaves, and I was too scared so I sent my wife up and I held the ladder. The north face of the Eiger has killed off 80 people but I could only do it because of that guy.
Can I have two super powers? I have pre-diabetes, and if I don’t behave myself, I could get
Type 2 diabetes, meaning that I could never have sugar again. My favourite food in the world is vanilla ice cream with hot chocolate sauce, so my super power would be that the I could eat all the sugar I wanted and still be healthy!
Who would you like to play you in the film of your life?
Ralph Fiennes or Joe Fiennes.
Which person do you most admire, living or dead and why?
One of the people I admire the most is the polar explorer Captain Robert Falcon Scott. I’ve
just written a book on him that tries to get to the truth of his wonderful career, as there are a
lot of lies and rumours about him. He first discovered that Antarctica was a continent! But he had bad luck with the weather on his expeditions, and died in his tent. I also really admire the explorer Wilfred Thesiger, who carried out lots of expeditions in intense heat.
Who would you invite to your dream dinner party?
Honestly, I would invite my wife to my dream dinner party. Although I would also like to invite
Jesus to make sure I haven't wasted my time in believing in him. And maybe Stalin, Hitler
and Mao so that I could poison them before they had done all their damage.
If you could go back in time, what time period would you travel to?
I would travel back to 1415. I would have preferred to live in the pre-digital age.
With the threat of climate change more apparent than ever, what would you urge the
younger generation to change?
Sorting out the plastic in the ocean is a good start, rather than trying to tackle things you can't even see. Everyone can do something about that, whereas something complicated like tackling carbon monoxide is more difficult to get the public interested in. If the whole of the motor industry had to switch to electric vehicles that would be good – then we would be
heading in the right direction.
What is your next adventure?
Ah! The trouble with this question is that the enemy are constantly listening to what we are
planning. If it’s a first, you don’t want to let anyone know, so unfortunately, I can’t divulge as
to what I am doing next. You’ll just have to wait and see…!